23rd September, 2003
Ministry of Defence  


TERRORISM IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE SAYS FERNANDES


Defence Minister Shri George Fernandes has said that Terrorism is the biggest challenge facing the country today. In an exclusive interview to Doordarshan today Shri Fernandes spoke on a variety of matters related to defence. When asked about India sending its troops to Iraq, Shri Fernandes said that the issue is very complex. No decision could be taken on this matter, as there is virtually no United Nations’ role in Iraq as on today. Shri Fernandes added that the present situation in Iraq is not conducive to send Indian troops there for security reasons. Moreover as the Indian Army is actively involved in counter-insurgency operations in Jammu & Kashmir and the North-East, their presence is more essential here than anywhere else, he said. Unless these matters are resolved, India cannot think of sending its troops to Iraq, Shri Fernandes added.

When asked whether selective fencing along the LoC has reduced terrorist infiltration, Shri Fernandes said that intrusion still continues. Referring to the rehabilitation of the surrendered militants, the Minister said that a decision has been taken to raise separate units for them in the Armed Forces. On a query about Fidayeen attacks Shri Fernandes said that Fidayeens are basically linked with religious fundamentalism. What can one do when they are taught that if they die for their religion then they shall go to heaven, he said.

Answering a question about the ISI making inroads into several states of India, Shri Fernandes said that the intelligence agencies of our country are doing an excellent job of incapacitating the ISI.

Replying to a question on Phalcon deal, Shri Fernandes said that the Phalcon AWACS involves three countries the platform will come from Russia, the radar from Israel and India will be the user. No time frame for acquisition can be given the Minister said.

On Indo-Israel relations, the Minister said that our relations with Israel are manifold. We have cooperation in the field of defence, which involves import of arms and weapon systems. Israel has also been facing the menacing of terrorisms and their experience in counter terrorism methods can be invaluable to us. The Minister added that there is a proposal of joint exercises with Israel.

Replying to a question on India, US and Israeli axis against terrorism Shri Fernandes said that this is only an idea which was floated recently. When one of the countries in this axis has close links with Pakistan, which is the foremost country sponsoring terrorism, this axis does not seem feasible, he said. Moreover each country has to fight its own battles against terrorism. Unless each and every citizen of our country wakens to the malice of terrorism and fights it on his own it is difficult to combat terrorism in any manner.

Referring to Indo-US relations, Shri Fernandes said that post 9/11, the differences between the two countries have been largely erased. Joint exercises were conducted not only in India but also in US and other parts of the world. We have developed so much understanding that despite our not sending troops to Iraq there is no ill will between India and US.

Referring to the Sino-Indian border dispute Shri Fernandes said that talks are yet to begin. The decisions taken during the Prime Minister Vajpayee’s visit to China are to be implemented now. Both sides will soon have talks on political level, he said. During my visit, in principle I pursued friendly relations between India and China and I also found that both the countries share similar problems, he added. Shri Fernandes said that he was impressed by the progress the Chinese are making through sheer discipline. The leaders in China told me that they had a mission and the mission was to make China the world’s most powerful economy by the year 2020, the minister said. He added that India should take this up as a challenge and become world’s most powerful economy two years ahead of China i.e. 2018. On being asked as to why the defence allocations are underutilized. Shri Fernandes said that this is not true. The Minister said that sometimes the allocations remain unutilized due to time-consuming procedures of Defence acquisition. In this context he gave the example of AJT and said it took almost two decades to acquire AJT due to several reasons. Every year money was allocated for this in Defence budget and it was to be surrendered at the end of the year because the acquisition was not done due to one reason or other. Initially when the AJT proposal came up there were two companies involved in the offer. After the NDA government took over, it was found that one of the companies had folded up and then several players jumped into the fray offering AJT to us. So this is just an example of how defence deals get delayed and the money slated for such weapon systems remains unutilized. When asked about the pace of modernization in Defence Ministry Shri Fernandes said that he was very satisfied.

 

 
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