21st June, 2003
Prime Minister's Office  


INTERVIEW OF THE PRIME MINISTER SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE BY PEOPLE'S DAILY, BEIJING


People's Daily (PD): The world situation has changed a lot since India PM’s last visit on China in 1993, what’s your view on the recent developments in world affairs? Could you make some comments on how these developments should affect the international relations?

Prime Minister (PM): The global scene has undergone a sea change in the last decade. The technology revolution has created an explosion in productivity and growth, but has also raised the spectre of the digital divide within and between countries. The enthusiasm over the inexorable march of globalisation has been tinged with disappointment over the uneven spread of its benefits. Global terrorism has demonstrated its reach and ability to overcome asymmetries in power. The developments in Iraq demonstrated the infirmities of the post-World War II multilateral institutions. All these developments underline the pressing need to urgently evolve a cooperative multi-polar world order, which would be based on the values of pluralism and consensus, and would further the legitimate interests and aspirations of its constituent elements. India and China can be partners in this endeavour.

PD: India and China are both great countries, and they have enjoyed a long history of friendly interactions. We believe that your visit will play an active role in promoting the bilateral relations. So the Prime Minister, please elaborate on the current situation and future development of Sino-India relations. And as the largest two developing countries in the world, what role should India (and China) play in the setting up of a new world order?

PM: India and China are neighbours bound by centuries-old ties of civilization, history, religion, culture and economic interaction. Particularly in the last few years our two countries have developed a wide canvas of mutually beneficial cooperation.

In recent years, our two countries have launched a process of diversification of bilateral relations. Our dialogue now addresses not only the various areas in which we can improve bilateral cooperation, but also international issues such as terrorism, security, environment, sustainable development and multilateral economic regimes. Our trade relations are developing in a healthy manner. Exchanges are growing in culture, education, science & technology, media and tourism. It is a sign of the maturity of our two ancient civilizations that we are successfully pursuing the path of fruitful cooperation, even while simultaneously addressing our differences.

But I must say that for two countries of our sizes, populations, human resources and economic strengths, these are still only the first few steps on a long and promising path. We need to do much more to fulfil the true potential of our partnership – in promoting equitable economic growth within our countries, in the search for a multi-polar world order, in fashioning pragmatic responses to the challenges of globalisation, and in countering the threat to our societies from terrorism and violence.

PD: It is very important to restore and strengthen close exchanges between the two countries in such areas as trade, culture, tourism, sports etc, which could lead to the further development of the bilateral relations. What specifically, in your view, the two governments should do in these areas to improve and strengthen such exchanges?

PM: As I have just said, our bilateral relations have developed and diversified. The areas that you have mentioned namely trade, culture, tourism and sports are all sectors where useful progress has taken place over recent years. I expect that in my discussions with the Chinese leadership, we will confirm the need to further expand and intensify relations between our two countries in these and a number of new sectors. I believe there is a mutual desire for this.

PD: We know that you visited China as India Foreign Minister in 1979. As for this visit, what impresses you most about China? Is China in your eyes follows the image in your mind before your visit?

PM: China has moved ahead in every possible way since my visit as Foreign Minister in 1979. In fact I think there have been a major transformation even since my last visit to China as member of an Indian Parliamentary delegation in 1993. I am greatly looking forward to the opportunity of witnessing for myself the rapid economic development and significant technological successes which the Chinese people have achieved, particularly in the last two decades. Your remarkable achievements have many lessons for India.

PD: You expressed the willingness to restore peace talks with Pakistan in April. And till now both countries have taken measures to ease the tension. What’s your prospect on your peace effort? What is India’s evaluation towards the Subcontinent’s future development?

PM: I have frequently expressed our commitment to a relationship of peace, friendship and cooperation with Pakistan. It was that commitment that took me on a bus trip to Lahore in February 1999, and which prompted me to invite President Musharraf to Agra in July 2001 inspite of the vitiated atmosphere caused by our military conflict in Kargil. Good relations between India and Pakistan are dictated by geography and economics. We have much to benefit by directing our national energies to economic development in peaceful coexistence, rather than to mindless confrontation.

I hope my political initiative will inspire action to end cross border terrorism and to dismantle the infrastructure of support to it. Naturally, this is a requirement to create a conducive atmosphere for a sustained dialogue.

PD: We noticed that India has been working hard to strengthen regional cooperation, which is also a trend in world development. Now India is taking efforts to establish India-ASEAN Free Trade Zone, and also to promote economic cooperation within South Asia. What in your view, such efforts will bring on India’s future development?

PM: India's efforts at promoting regional cooperation in South Asia are not new. We are now discussing an India-ASEAN Free Trade Agreement, as well as an FTA among Bangladesh, India, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Thailand under BIMST-EC. Bilaterally, we already have special trading arrangements with Bhutan and Nepal, and an FTA with Sri Lanka. I have little doubt that regional economic integration in South Asia will bring enormous benefits to our people, as there is substantial complementarity among our economies. Freer access to the large Indian market should be particularly beneficial to our South Asian and Southeast Asian neighbours. The India-ASEAN FTA will create a large market of 1.5 billion people, with a combined present GDP of US$ 1.2 trillion, and will cover investment, and services, in addition to trade in goods. It will promote economies of scale, and greater specialization in economic activity. In order to reap full benefits from the FTA, our businesses would need to be adaptable and flexible. We will also need to greatly strengthen transport and communications linkages between India and South East Asia.